The Meltdown

[Tizzer]

Allright check it. With the growing problem of global warming, which government officals are unwilling to recognize as the very serious threat that it is becoming, some riders have taken things into their own hands. Riders Dave Downing, Romain DeMarchi, and Jeremy Jones (big mountain) have taken part in a project called keep winter cool. They are airing a number of public service announcements starting feb 21 urging people do take action.

The warming trend on the planet has already had numerous effects. Those of us in the pacific northwest already know all about it from last season. There are also scientists that have pointed to global warming as a partial cause for violent weather such as hurricane Katrina. See global warming has caused temperature levels in the gulf coast to rise so high that a storm like that was not so much a possiblilty as it was an inevitability. That is one reason that people have put so much blame on the president for doing so little, they had predicted a storm of that magnitude years ago and tried to implement protective measures that were rejected by Bush.

With technology at the state that it is, alternative fuels are not a dream they are a reality. ALL diesel engines can be converted to run on cooking grease. Also known as "greasel engines" the fuel is basically free when collected from fast food restaurants as it is just waste to them. Also other advances in alternate fuels like bio-diesel (soy fuel), or hydrogen fuel.

We live in a world that is changing rapidly, and not necessarily for the better. A united nations study pedicted that eventually the only rding we'll be doing is at mountains with elevation over 5000 feet. So no more Mt. Baker, Whistler, or even stratton.

It's my belief that Pres. Bush will not do these things of his own will, he needs to be forced to do so. The only way to do that is for americans to take action, write letters or emails to your state congressman, senators, and hell even the president. They cannot ignore us for ever and we must be proactive in this fight if we expect things to change.

Fossil fuels and our dependance on them are driving the planet to ruin, and as one of the world's largest countries we should be the people to lead the charge. Please, write some letters, to government officals and even the local papers or magazines. The more people that can help the better, we only get this one planet and we better take care of it. Also check out www.keepwintercool.org (http://www.keepwintercool.org/) for more info on their movement.

[e.]

thats alot to read. i will come back after i eat

[kelly]

Right on.
People here are concerned too - we've had a string of worse than normal winters, which is causing problems because snowmelt is our main water source.

[SpottyFish]

Amen to that!

I'm from Oregon and our winter was just as hidious as Washington's. I have my fingers crossed for this winter.

[itsdanielle]

Tizzer for President!! woot.

SAVE THE HUMANS!!! :mrgreen:

[thedude]

michigan weather= slush + lake effect snow. not as bad as some places, but shotty as hell. i remember there being greta snbwo when i was younger, btu now it's like "bleh, snow." beng home of the motor city, it will be hard to change this states midn because of big budget deficets, but if everyoen pitches in it coudl hapen fairly quickly

[Ace]

wow... if thats true about only riding above 5000 ft soon that sucks ASS

[thedude]

or everyone can then hit up the cnadian rockeis pretty soon. we'll travel where the snow takes us

[itsdanielle]

or everyone can then hit up the cnadian rockeis pretty soon. we'll travel where the snow takes us

that's not the point.....there won't be anymore snow!!!! that is a perfect example as to why this is a problem...nobody wants to do anything about it!

sheesh.

[Forum_4ever]

Some people think that you have to be a tree-huging hippie to care about the earth and the wellness of the future generations......... thats bull**** man, there are many people that take time out of there "busy lives" to put in a lil work every once in a while.

[Forum_4ever]

ah i broke a 100 posts YEA

[thedude]

that's not the point.....there won't be anymore snow!!!! that is a perfect example as to why this is a problem...nobody wants to do anything about it!

sheesh.

there is always some place where there will be snow. and i'm nto sayign we shouldn't try to help stop thsi **** from happening, but i thik i shodl have made that poitn clearer. the higher up in the northern hemisphere, or lower in the south, you'll get cooler weather, so there will be snow somewhere. plus we also have to think about what other thigns are being said. there are so many "experts" out there who think they know the trends in weather, and are predicting all this bad **** is goign to happen, then you hear some other expert saying "oh, it will only last 15 years, and we'll be fine." there are so many opionons out there that it makes the situation even worse. since i'm from juts outside of Detroit, auto capital USA, the reason why they will hold off on such a thing is because of cost. they have to put a ton, i mean A TON, of money into researhchign these alternatives fuels, and because ti si a big cost to them, they will slwo down the process because they want to save money. Granted they have cars out there now that run on all these different things, and personally i think anythign that can be run off a type of atomic compound is the best way to go. they can create most of this stuff in labs to run quicker, cleaner, and have less cost to the perosn comsuming it. once they start banging out cars that ru on these eniroment safe and friendly fuels, i knwo i am gonna be first in.

that time i getting very close, but in the mean time, travleing to another place that is colder and has snow is an option until things improve, and hell, we can endorse it whiel we ride or durign that time off whiel we each lunch to make a donation to those companies wo are trying to push the alternative fuels.

[imakeskiierscry]

wow 5k feet hmm i think illl ride my bike more :)

[Tizzer]

The thing is though, car companies already have the means and the resources to implement alterative fuels. But, they don't because it would cost them money, they would have to cut their own salaires, not those of the workers, just the higher-ups and god knows they need those 15 million dollar salaries. The original inventor of the diesel engine created it to run on hemp oil. After his "untimely death" the auto companies changed the diesel engine to run on fossil fuels. Why? so they could make more of a profit. Hemp oil is spomething that you or I could could produce if we had the resources, the last thing that big buisness wants is for the common person to have access to these things at little to no cost. Where would they make their money? They would have to do something else to make a living.
The "experts" that have concluded these findings are not some quacks but United Nations scientists, that's the best of the best. America seems to be the only country that seems to not respect the U.N. as is apparent with george bush. This is not an imaginary problem, the effects can already be seen. Rising temperatures in areas that historically speaking have been cooler. look into some facts about the polar icecaps and how quickly they are melting! They aren't supposed to melt! That **** is at the north or south pole, the two coldest places on earth. The bad **** is already happening!!!

My major point is this.
Our government is not going to make these changes on thier own. One of the first things Bush did when in office is reject a the kyoto treaty. A worldwide plan to help the enviorment. The only way this situation will be resolved is if the people of this country, whos' taxes are paying thier salaries stand up and find a voice. I personally don't want my tax dollars funding a war and death. There are more important things to spend our countries money and rescources on, not to mention our people's lives. The current administration does not look to the future of the country or the planet, how can they bush is on vacation half the time. I know that if I took months off my job I wouldn't have one to go back to.

Please, write letters or emails to state and local representitives, even the white house! Just do something, the time it takes to write a letter may help impact the world we live in. Government officals work for us, that's why it's called public service. There is only one way that they will know what the people are thinking, that's to stand up and use your voice! The power of public opinion does matter, but no one uses it. Even if all you can do is car pool to work or to the mountain, every little thing counts!

[thedude]

The thing is though, car companies already have the means and the resources to implement alterative fuels. But, they don't because it would cost them money, they would have to cut their own salaires, not those of the workers, just the higher-ups and god knows they need those 15 million dollar salaries. The original inventor of the diesel engine created it to run on hemp oil. After his "untimely death" the auto companies changed the diesel engine to run on fossil fuels. Why? so they could make more of a profit. Hemp oil is spomething that you or I could could produce if we had the resources, the last thing that big buisness wants is for the common person to have access to these things at little to no cost. Where would they make their money? They would have to do something else to make a living.

that's would be my whole reason to get the detroit area to wise up and look at this. i'm pretty sure not many in the states alone knew that teh diesel engine was supposed to run on hemp oil. i didn't knwo that peice of information, but i used to be in the automotive program at FSU and i noticed how much the diesel engine is an easily convertable engine. if it's designe was easily changed to run on fossil fuel, then it can be easily changed back to it's origional design. hell, probably 2/3 of the people on thsi web site alone who have automotive knowledge woudl be able to draft the changes on their own.

and as for the Bush administration, you said it all brotha'. i say we impeach that son of a bitch.

[Tizzer]

For real dude. The higher-ups don't want people to know about diesel engine conversion, especially that the diesel was originally created to run clean on hemp oil. Yeah, if you have a diesel car check out the stuff for conversions, not the bio diesel, but greasel engines. Any diesel engine can convert and the fuel is basically free. Transworld snow had an article about it last year. All you gotta do for fuel, is collect it from fast food restaurants I hear it's kinda messy but free. As soon as pay off my car i'm gonna get a diesel car just so I can convert it.

[thedude]

yeah, there was somethign posted online somewhere, might have been somewhere jhere on SA but i don't remember, of these guys who converted a old van to run on used grease. thign ran clean as a whistle, and had fewer problems with the car, and it was kind of a clinker to begin with. then they got some omoney and converted another van/camper sort fo deal, a newer car, and they are goign around trying to promote the idea.

if i can find a desel that can be bolted to the transmission in my Jeep (1995 Cherokee that has the I-6 4.0L in it) and the time one a weekend once i get out of school, i'de be a happy man.

also the greasel engins woudl have a constant renewing fuel source. the grease basically is fat that comes from the meat when cooked, we woudl not run out of fuel. thoguh there is the draw back of the meat packing indusrty having to produce mroe cattle, and having to raise the cattle. but then again, this is where clonign could come in handy, by clonign the cows is quantities so that they can meet the demands of the population wiht greasel cars. lot mroe to it, liek problems and what not, actually big problems that require fine tuning, but i don't think anybody wanst to go into that.

[andrewhyman]

this is sooooooooooo right about it man bush dont do **** and i dont wanna lose snowboarding because of gobal warrming and than have to snowboard inside no thats just not snowboarding i want the open air and sunny powder days!! im goen 2 write letters 2 the presdent bush!

[kelly]

yeah, there was somethign posted online somewhere, might have been somewhere jhere on SA but i don't remember, of these guys who converted a old van to run on used grease. thign ran clean as a whistle, and had fewer problems with the car, and it was kind of a clinker to begin with. then they got some omoney and converted another van/camper sort fo deal, a newer car, and they are goign around trying to promote the idea.

if i can find a desel that can be bolted to the transmission in my Jeep (1995 Cherokee that has the I-6 4.0L in it) and the time one a weekend once i get out of school, i'de be a happy man.

also the greasel engins woudl have a constant renewing fuel source. the grease basically is fat that comes from the meat when cooked, we woudl not run out of fuel. thoguh there is the draw back of the meat packing indusrty having to produce mroe cattle, and having to raise the cattle. but then again, this is where clonign could come in handy, by clonign the cows is quantities so that they can meet the demands of the population wiht greasel cars. lot mroe to it, liek problems and what not, actually big problems that require fine tuning, but i don't think anybody wanst to go into that.
I've also read about greasel engines running on vegetable oil...

[Tizzer]

yeah, there's the vegetable oil stuff and also a soy fuel I think called bio diesel.

[kelly]

yeah, there's the vegetable oil stuff and also a soy fuel I think called bio diesel.
Yeah, bio diesel is the one I've heard of.