New Mack Dawg Video

[Er to the In]

so if anyone has seen the new mack dawg vid _____ with love (thats a blank by the way) then they can you know, share an opinion. I saw it a good week ago and its pretty decent, scotty arnold's part is rad but then again i may be basis because scotty is a favorite of mine. But yeah if you haven't seen it go do that.....now!

[Phoenix]

yeah, i have the video on my computer. i can upload it for you guys to download if wanted. it's in A+ format. that video rocks so hardcore.

[e.]

yeah, i have the video on my computer. i can upload it for you guys to download if wanted. it's in A+ format. that video rocks so hardcore.

yeah dude totally. share the love

[thedude]

dude, that woudl be tight as hell. i got pretty pumpd when i saw that trailer on the web site

[Phoenix]

ok, it's uploading. hopefully it'll finish by tomorrow morning. i'll post the link then.

[cavlax1]

widdly w00t

[Phoenix]

that's what i said.

[thedude]

you are my new best friend

[Phoenix]

lol, thanks. i have another one called, Methodology? it's kinda like a 411 but for snowboarding, i dunno exactly what it is, it's cool. has coo boarding from dmitri fosenko and filipo krater. sorry if i spelled their names wrong.

[Phoenix]

ok, i posted the vid in the Media Section under Snow/Skate Videos. check it out!

[SimonInAustralia]

I don't think it's cool to be sharing pirated dvds on here!

It is stealing from the producers, wholesalers, and the retailers.

[The Voice]

Are you serious?

Damn, everyone should just upload on vid, and we would all have a phatty collection!

[e.]

Are you serious?

Damn, everyone should just upload on vid, and we would all have a phatty collection!

hell yeah. i got a couple vids at home i can upload, but they are all from last year or the year before. still good riding

[SimonInAustralia]

Of course I'm serious!!!

Why is it OK for you to steal off of another member of the snowboarding community?

Would you have a cry if someone stole your board? What's the difference?

Why not compensate the people that put their time, effort, and money into producing these products for us to enjoy?

Do you think the producers of these videos mind that you are stealing their hard work without paying for it?

Do you think that the retailers that support this site mind that you are stealing and distributing pirated copies of products they sell?

I don't have a problem paying for these videos, I really enjoy them, and feel that the people that produce them should be fairly compensated by us buying the product rather than stealing it!

Just cause it's easy to steal, it doesn't make it right to steal it!

[kelly]

Uh oh, fight!

[e.]

since simon is morally correct, maybe we should vote on it

[SimonInAustralia]

Maybe you should send emails to the people that produce these videos and ask them if they mind that their hard work is stolen and distributed here.

[The Voice]

To compare my board to a video is ludacris!!!

If I could some how clone my board for other's to enjoy.....DAMN right I would, everyone would be riding the new KINK......

And I'm not stealing anyones video, we are simply sharing the ones we have.

[e.]

Maybe you should send emails to the people that produce these videos and ask them if they mind that their hard work is stolen and distributed here.

easy buddy. i m trying to respect ur decision here.

[SimonInAustralia]

And I'm not stealing anyones video, we are simply sharing the ones we have.

What a load of ****!!!

You are illegally copying and distributing someones product, the people receiving it are not paying for it, it is stealing.

[SimonInAustralia]

To compare my board to a video is ludacris!!!

You worked to make money and bought a board.

They work by making videos and selling them.

You are taking their video, and not paying for it.

What is the difference if someone takes your board, and don't pay you for it?

[The Voice]

Yeah but the copies of the video aren't for sale, they're for simply for public viewing

[cavlax1]

whooooooo! SBA fight! do u honestly think that these companies need the 25-30 bucks for the video i mean jesus they are making you pay to buy an hour long commercial for their company's latest products. Why do u think they put out these videos? its not a profit making venture they are used as marketing tools to help hype up the team riders and their signature gear. for example when the first big shorty's vid came out (fullfill the dream) their product sales particularly muska products sky rocketed. Not to mention little peon's like myself could really absolutely care less about copyright laws and the major corporations they protect. whoa that was a mouthfull.

[The Voice]

You worked to make money and bought a board.

They work by making videos and selling them.

You are taking their video, and not paying for it.

What is the difference if someone takes your board, and don't pay you for it?
as long as I still have the original I'm cool!

[The Voice]

whooooooo! SBA fight! do u honestly think that these companies need the 25-30 bucks for the video i mean jesus they are making you pay to buy an hour long commercial for their company's latest products. Why do u think they put out these videos? its not a profit making venture they are used as marketing tools to help hype up the team riders and their signature gear. for example when the first big shorty's vid came out (fullfill the dream) their product sales particularly muska products sky rocketed. Not to mention little peon's like myself could really absolutely care less about copyright laws and the major corporations they protect. whoa that was a mouthfull.
exacty......see the funny thing is, is that we premired this video at Bear last week. They sent us over 1500 *FREE* video's......so if is that big of a deal to NOT copy and watch....I'll just get home addresses and send one to whom ever want's one.........video are a promo, not a money maker!

[cavlax1]

p.s. simon, and be honest;), did u ever have napster, kazza, limewire, etc.?

[SimonInAustralia]

Yeah but the copies of the video aren't for sale, they're for simply for public viewing

They are produced as a product to sell and make money from.

They are not produced as a free product for general public viewing.

It doesn't matter that you are distributing them for free, the point is that the people that produce it are not receiving any payment for that public viewing, when they are entitled to.

[The Voice]

They are produced as a product to sell and make money from.

They are not produced as a free product for general public viewing.

It doesn't matter that you are distributing them for free, the point is that the people that produce it are not receiving any payment for that public viewing, when they are entitled to.
Well, maybe I am an @$$40!3 but, I don't see anything wrong with coping movies!

[cavlax1]

dog ur not getting it! they dont care about the profit returns they get directly from the video, it is a way for them to get there name and new product lines out there.

[e.]

p.s. simon, and be honest;), did u ever have napster, kazza, limewire, etc.?

i think in simons neck of the woods Kazza just got hit with like millions in the courts.

[SimonInAustralia]

whooooooo! SBA fight! do u honestly think that these companies need the 25-30 bucks for the video i mean jesus they are making you pay to buy an hour long commercial for their company's latest products. Why do u think they put out these videos? its not a profit making venture they are used as marketing tools to help hype up the team riders and their signature gear. for example when the first big shorty's vid came out (fullfill the dream) their product sales particularly muska products sky rocketed. Not to mention little peon's like myself could really absolutely care less about copyright laws and the major corporations they protect. whoa that was a mouthfull.

There is a difference between a company produced promo video, that they intend to give away, and the videos produced by these small production companies to be sold for profit.

They are not major corporations, they are small operations of keen snowboarders wanting to make quality videos.

[SimonInAustralia]

dog ur not getting it! they dont care about the profit returns they get directly from the video, it is a way for them to get there name and new product lines out there.

What a load of crap, the small production companies that produce these videos make their money from selling the videos.

Again, there is a huge difference between a promo video produced by a snowboard company and a video produced by a small production team.

[SimonInAustralia]

Well, maybe I am an @$$40!3 but, I don't see anything wrong with coping movies!

You are enjoying and using someone elses product without paying for it.

Would you get someone to do some work for you, something that benefits you, then just not pay them?

I give up...you guys are obviously too thick to understand that you are stealing something...go ahead, I just hope that karma does it's thing and your board gets stolen.

[The Voice]

What a load of crap, the small production companies that produce these videos make their money from selling the videos.

Again, there is a huge difference between a promo video produced by a snowboard company and a video produced by a small production team.
Okay so your telling me that your only cool with us "sharing" movies made by huge snowboard companies?

[cavlax1]

ok im not gunna argue anymore becuase ur ignorance is hiding ur ability to see the truth. i have a fairly extensive knowledge about the the marketing and administration of these companies. Even though it may be against the law and lets be honest with ourselves the company probably doesnt want it, the pirating of a video on a site of this size doesnt matter to the company so my consience is clear.

but seriously i cant believe that u never owned napster or somethin

[The Voice]

You are enjoying and using someone elses product without paying for it.

Would you get someone to do some work for you, something that benefits you, then just not pay them?

I give up...you guys are obviously too thick to understand that you are stealing something...go ahead, I just hope that karma does it's thing and your board gets stolen.
I highly doubt my board will be stolen but hey maybe it will, hopefully it's one of the old ones!

[SimonInAustralia]

Okay so your telling me that your only cool with us "sharing" movies made by huge snowboard companies?

No, I'm saying that if that is what they are made for, as a promo device for a large company, and for free distribution, then fine. But most of the snowboard videos we are talking about are not made by snowboard companies, they are made by small production teams, to be sold, not given away.

[The Voice]

Then why do they give them away?

[SimonInAustralia]

ok im not gunna argue anymore becuase ur ignorance is hiding ur ability to see the truth. i have a fairly extensive knowledge about the the marketing and administration of these companies. Even though it may be against the law and lets be honest with ourselves the company probably doesnt want it, the pirating of a video on a site of this size doesnt matter to the company so my consience is clear.

but seriously i cant believe that u never owned napster or somethin

You are the one that is ignorant, blinded by the ease and prevalence of pirating on the internet, you actually believe that you have the right to steal products from others, to use them without paying for them. You seem to think that since it is available as downloadable data on the internet, that using it without paying is not stealing, that it is somehow different to walking into a retail store and shoplifting it. I pity you.

I'll email one of the Absinthe Films crew and see if they want to respond with their thoughts about it.

Why is it so hard to believe that I don't use napster or something...I believe in buying my music CDs and snowboard videos I use, if you don't then you are just a thief.

[SimonInAustralia]

Then why do they give them away?

Where are they giving away any Standard Films releases, Absinthe releases, Mack Dawg releases, etc.?

If they are giving them away for free, why do you have to download them?

[The Voice]

You are the one that is ignorant, blinded by the ease and prevalence of pirating on the internet, you actually believe that you have the right to steal products from others, to use them without paying for them. You seem to think that since it is available as downloadable data on the internet, that using it without paying is not stealing, that it is somehow different to walking into a retail store and shoplifting it. I pity you.

I'll email one of the Absinthe Films crew and see if they want to respond with their thoughts about it.

Why is it so hard to believe that I don't use napster or something...I believe in buying my music CDs and snowboard videos I use, if you don't then you are just a thief.
What's the difference between getting a copy, or just going to watch the original...If I go watch one of e.'s video's I didn't pay for it, but I still got to enjoy it?

[SimonInAustralia]

What's the difference between getting a copy, or just going to watch the original...If I go watch one of e.'s video's I didn't pay for it, but I still got to enjoy it?

Then you have a copy of it, to watch whenever you want, where ever you want, and you have not paid for it.

So, just because one person owns it, and you can go to their place to watch it, that makes it OK for you to copy it so that you have it without buying it?

[The Voice]

Yeah, I could watch it anytime anyway?

[SimonInAustralia]

Yeah, I could watch it anytime anyway?

If you want your own copy, buy it, otherwise you are just stealing it, your are a simple thief, to me it is no different to someone that steals someones board...lame!

[e.]

just let it go. i dont think that u two are going to solve what the supreme court has been debating with for years.

[The Voice]

It's a $20 movie....compared to a $500 board that the movie sold me anyway

[SimonInAustralia]

So it is OK to steal $20 off of someone, just not $500?

[Er to the In]

well its better but not okay

[The Voice]

misdemeanor - felony

[cavlax1]

this is totally off topic but simon are u doing this while ur at work? cuz ive never understood how u guys with the big jobs can get away with playin on the comp.

[SimonInAustralia]

Nope, this is at home, nearly 7am here.

I do get on SBA at work though, not sure how long I'll get away with it.

[Er to the In]

woah thats early...

[cavlax1]

damn got an early bird on our hands huh? where is Canberra east or west? cuz my sis went to university of perth last year.

[SimonInAustralia]

I have irregular sleeping patterns, and often wake up at 4 or 5 am for a little while and then go back to sleep, except when I check SBA and get stuck on here for hours until I have to go to work.

Canberra is east, Perth is west, I am 3750kms (2330miles) from Perth.

[Phoenix]

well, if you live where i live, snowboarding just isn't popular...so the only way for me to see these is Amazon or downloading. i bought from ____, with love, but if i wanted to download some i know where to. i don't think it's wrong to post this video seeing as it's only for us people here. if i posted it on something like yahoo, then yeah...everyone in the world is gonna have it and then it'll be a loss of money.

[cavlax1]

umm pheonix pray tell where is this place to download u speak of?

[SimonInAustralia]

I order them online from the US, they get here in a few days...I'm guessing I'm more out of the way than you are.

I still think it's wrong, but that's just my opinion, you're entitled to your opinion, and I don't run the site.

[Phoenix]

it's called, mIRC. ;) PM me for more details, i don't wanna talk about it in threads.

[Phoenix]

I order them online from the US, they get here in a few days...I'm guessing I'm more out of the way than you are.

I still think it's wrong, but that's just my opinion, you're entitled to your opinion, and I don't run the site.

i'm also in college working a job that hardly pays for my photography equipment, i'm super broke. can't afford to order every video i want.

[SimonInAustralia]

i'm also in college working a job that hardly pays for my photography equipment, i'm super broke. can't afford to order every video i want.

I guess that when I was young and broke, before I had a real job, they didn't have the internet and the means to pirate on a global scale like you can now. It was more copying vinyl onto cassette.

[SnoChica]

I remember when I had to wait for a song to come on the radio, have my tape cued, and hot the record buttin.... all while trying to skip the DJ talk, but before the lyrics kicked in. You kids don't know how easy you have it!

[SimonInAustralia]

I remember when I had to wait for a song to come on the radio, have my tape cued, and hot the record buttin.... all while trying to skip the DJ talk, but before the lyrics kicked in. You kids don't know how easy you have it!

Yep, that's how it was, back in the day!

[Phoenix]

i've done that before also.

[Er to the In]

yeah i have definitely done that

[The Voice]

I remember when I had to wait for a song to come on the radio, have my tape cued, and hot the record buttin.... all while trying to skip the DJ talk, but before the lyrics kicked in. You kids don't know how easy you have it!
Old Skool bootleggin!!

[Phoenix]

Old Skool bootleggin!!

lol. so don't come to us with the anti-pirating stuff. we've all done it.

[Satan]

yeah, remember how hard it was to make a mix tape? you'd call up wmmr or wysp and request songs, then wait all day just to hit that record button. i'm glad those days are over. thats when a cassette walkman from sony was the hot ****, especially the yellow sony sports model with the folding headphones

[Phoenix]

yeah, remember how hard it was to make a mix tape? you'd call up wmmr or wysp and request songs, then wait all day just to hit that record button. i'm glad those days are over. thats when a cassette walkman from sony was the hot ****, especially the yellow sony sports model with the folding headphones

hah, oh hell yes dude.

[SnoChica]

yeah, remember how hard it was to make a mix tape? you'd call up wmmr or wysp and request songs, then wait all day just to hit that record button. i'm glad those days are over. thats when a cassette walkman from sony was the hot ****, especially the yellow sony sports model with the folding headphones
Or even WDRE.. coolest station ever to hit Philadelphia.

[Satan]

wasn't that 103.9? remember eagle 106

[Er to the In]

i always forgot to stop recording after the song was done

[The Voice]

Wow you guys had to call in stations.....YOU STOLE RADIO MUSIC!!!??? At least we're steal quality stuff

[cavlax1]

ok ack to the original topic, the vid is freakin awsome! the perfect mix of street and backcountry. plus if u like classic mqackdawg soundtracks this is def one of um.

[Phoenix]

yeahh, this video is the truth. i love it. you're welcome. ;)

[The Voice]

Wait till you see "No Big Deal"

[Phoenix]

i have the new Burning Bridges, it's ok. not better than From ____, with Love in my opinion. but ok.

[The Voice]

Yeah....From____, with Love is pretty TIGHT too!

[Fae]

i have the new Burning Bridges, it's ok. not better than From ____, with Love in my opinion. but ok.

I like Burning Bridges a lot. It's kind of wacky, which is fun. Maybe not the most impressive riding ever, but it's definitely a good time to watch.

[e.]

Yeah....From____, with Love is pretty TIGHT too!

i will watch it when i get home tonight. i stocked and cant wait

[Phoenix]

I like Burning Bridges a lot. It's kind of wacky, which is fun. Maybe not the most impressive riding ever, but it's definitely a good time to watch.

good point.

[The Voice]

Someone go buy the new Bear video "No Big Deal" and watch it so you can see me!!!

[Phoenix]

i would if they sold snowvids at my skateshop.

[e.]

Someone go buy the new Bear video "No Big Deal" and watch it so you can see me!!!

give me a copy of it and i will pretend like i care, heheh

[The Voice]

oh yeah let me get right on that!!

[SimonInAustralia]

ok ack to the original topic, the vid is freakin awsome! the perfect mix of street and backcountry. plus if u like classic mqackdawg soundtracks this is def one of um.

If you like it so much, go buy it, support the people that produce this quality entertainment for you.

[The Voice]

If you like it so much, go buy it, support the people that produce this quality entertainment for you.
So your cool with that......pirate it, if you like it buy the original?

[kelly]

what's so hard about typing you're? Damn you people!

[SimonInAustralia]

No, but if you really like it, you should at least buy it. Support the people that make these awesome vids.

[The Voice]

what's so hard about typing you're? Damn you people!
Uh Oh grammar police..........I do, do that. I will pirate it and if I like it buy it. Keep the burned copy in the car and the real one in the house....

[e.]

are we going post links to uploaded vids?

[The Voice]

There already in the gallery. Damn too quick for this 30 second thing again!!!

[e.]

but those are all vids of G

[The Voice]

hmmm I don't know then!

[thedude]

just went in and watched it, and it s stellar...to the max

[kelly]

You kids are gonna drive simon over the edge.

[SimonInAustralia]

You kids are gonna drive simon over the edge.

Been there for a while already!

[kelly]

That's ok... you can beat them up for pirating ****, and then I'll give them a few kicks for typing "your" instead of "you're."

[thedude]

at least he isn't threatenign to kill people. this kid i used ot work wiht was obsesive/compulsive, and one time a customer at work threw him over the edge, so he goes itno our back cooler where we keep all out meat and ****, and he walked out wiht thsi big rusty ****ign clever and threatened the perosn rigth there in fornt of the mnager. remember, i said i used to work with him, lol

[Phoenix]

i agree with Kelly outta all this nonsense..people that refer to you're as "your" annoy me tremendously and they needa be shot. hah, not literally, but yeah. two more pushes of a button and you're using correct english!

[kelly]

My main thing with it is it makes stuff kinda hard to read sometimes - so you're being lazy with your typing, and making us do more work to figure out wtf you're trying to say!

[Levi]

Did you know that you brain only needs the first and last letter of the word to read it? For example if I siad you lkie to snwoborad in the muontains dwon in the daep porwdr you can read it just fine!!!

[kelly]

More slowly though - and it needs a bit more than the first and last letter. Otherwise you could type **** like "bdft" and expect people to get something out of it.
That's why I get annoyed about the you're your thing though - those are completely different words, so your brain reads the wrong word and gets confused! :)

[Levi]

**** "bdft" reads "butt" hahaha

[kelly]

**** "bdft" reads "butt" hahaha
Nuh uh, I was saying "boot." Duh.

[cavlax1]

or is it the other way around and ur too lazy to put in a little extra effort so u rather than figure it out u just complain?:wink:

[cavlax1]

i really wanted to type in that funny french haaah haaah kinda laugh of deduction after that but i realized nobody woud hear the accent so i passed but i thought u all should kno

[Forum_4ever]

so where can i dl it from?

[Phoenix]

in the media room and look at the Skate/Snow Videos thread.

[The Voice]

I don't understand you're guys problem with how were typing your.

[cavlax1]

touche! el vox, comin wit the "were" just to piss um off

mmm i love a good trilingual post

[The Voice]

touche! el vox, comin wit the "were" just to piss um off

mmm i love a good trilingual post
Yeah I try to piss off at least one person a day....sometimes it just happens to be kelly's week!! J/K sweetheart!

[spoolindc2]

whos all in it?

[Phoenix]

look it up. my favorite rider is in it though. heikki.

[SimonInAustralia]

dog ur not getting it! they dont care about the profit returns they get directly from the video, it is a way for them to get there name and new product lines out there.

I sent an email to Patrick Armbruster, one of the Absinthe Films producers, asking if selling dvds mattered to him, his reply...


HI Simon,

You are totally right, we defenetly depend on our DVD sales and if our expectations come through we will, for the first time in our 6 year history, break even or make a little profit!!!
It’s true that the movies are mostly funded through sponsorship but since we put in all we got and shoot till there is no more snow and just go the extra mile in general...also in spending money we always exceed the budget we have to produce these movies.
Thanks a lot for sticking to our side and keep on purchasing our movies year after year!
Truly one of our best and most loyal customer.

I’ll send you the DVD asap.
-brusti-


This is who you are stealing from when you pirate/distribute/copy these videos instead of buying the legitimate dvd...not from major corporations, but from the snowboarders that make these awesome videos, and have not made a profit in 6 years of doing so.

These videos are produced by very small teams of keen snowboarders, not major corporations. They are not produced by large snowboard companies for promotional purposes. Snowboard companies might use footage from these producers in their promo videos, but when you are talking about snowboard dvds from production teams such as Absinthe Films, Standard Files, Mack Dawg, etc., these are produced by fellow snowboarders.

What you are doing is stealing, even if it is not a physical item from a store, you are preventing these people from receiving the payment they deserve for the hard work and time they put in to produce these videos, videos that you derive a large amount of enjoyment from.

Saying that pirating on a site of this size doesn't matter is a load of crap. The only people that would buy these dvds are keen snowboarders, like the users on this site, not the general public, so even though the users of this site are a small percentage of the total population, they are a much larger percentage of the target market for these products.

If you enjoy the video that you download, go out and buy the dvd, support these keen members of our snowboarding community.

If you think that stealing from other snowboarders is OK, and you can't see that it is what you are doing when pirating these videos, you're ****ing lame!

[kelly]

I really like the word "keen," I should use it more.

PS - I kinda agree with simon here - I don't think it's cool to steal from the smaller independent production companies - if we put them all out of business, we won't have much interesting left to watch.

[ilikecilantro]

whooooooo! SBA fight! do u honestly think that these companies need the 25-30 bucks for the video i mean jesus they are making you pay to buy an hour long commercial for their company's latest products. Why do u think they put out these videos? its not a profit making venture they are used as marketing tools to help hype up the team riders and their signature gear. for example when the first big shorty's vid came out (fullfill the dream) their product sales particularly muska products sky rocketed. Not to mention little peon's like myself could really absolutely care less about copyright laws and the major corporations they protect. whoa that was a mouthfull.



Could you BE ANY more clueless?

If they don´t sell videos they won´t make ends meet and they´ll have to sleep on peoples floors or quit making videos. Damn you´re stupid!
How come the admin is allowing this?

Some videos are marketing (The Resistance, DC etc), but the filmers / directors rely on royalties to make a living.

Like Neoproto, Robot Food, Whiteout etc, they need to sell videos.

[ilikecilantro]

ok im not gunna argue anymore becuase ur ignorance is hiding ur ability to see the truth. i have a fairly extensive knowledge about the the marketing and administration of these companies. Even though it may be against the law and lets be honest with ourselves the company probably doesnt want it, the pirating of a video on a site of this size doesnt matter to the company so my consience is clear.

but seriously i cant believe that u never owned napster or somethin


"cavlax1" you´re truly an idiot. If you have extensive knowledge about this issue, please show me one email from Whiteout, Standard, MDP, Robot Food, Neoproto, Absinthe etc where they say they don´t rely on selling videos and that they´re fine with you sharing and downloading their work.

You mame as much sense as, well you don´t make sense.

[ilikecilantro]

My main thing with it is it makes stuff kinda hard to read sometimes - so you're being lazy with your typing, and making us do more work to figure out wtf you're trying to say!


Or your (haha) typing in you´re (so funny) 2nd, 3rd or 4th language... There are about 3 billion internet users that don´t have english as their 1st language and maybe 300 million that do. And if the americans can´t even figure out who not to vote for how can you demand them to know how to spell.

blogtelevision.net/p/Videos-Watch-a-Video___1,2,,59271.html

[nextplan]

does it matter that i dont have any money to buy them in the first place? so ive only seen chulksmack, white balance, and afterbang.