View Full Version : iTunes ticks me off!
SpottyFish
10-19-2005, 07:03 PM
Grrr.....
I had a problem downloading a song last week. They charged me for it, but the download failed and told me to "check for purchases" later. I did, but it said all my purchased music had been downloaded.
So, I e-mailed tech support explaining the problem. Easy, right? WRONG!
Those morons e-mailed me back with an obvious form letter (which I'm sure a lot of tech support places do) "answer" to my question. The e-mail would have been wonderful if I had been trying to download the iTunes PROGRAM and had problems, not just a song.
At the end of the e-mail, it said to REPLY to the e-mail if it didn't solve my problem. Well, the address on the e-mail is one of those do-not-reply@iTunes.com. Even further complicating the problem.
I swear, they're a bunch of idiots. SO, later today, I have to go back to support, submit a new support request and now I have two problems 1) I still don't have my song that I paid for, and 2) they're idiots.
If it keeps giving you trouble, just call apple tech support. They're actually very competent and helpful.
The Voice
10-19-2005, 08:10 PM
iTunes, sucks anyway!
nikkisixxsburton
10-19-2005, 08:42 PM
itunes is cool but its called limewire to buy songs off of artists u don't really care about becasue they have mad money ne ways
IRideASnowboard154
10-20-2005, 12:53 AM
actually... alot of them dont. They have to pay for stuff too, many people you would think had a ****load of money really dont.
no7ah
10-20-2005, 12:57 AM
right click on my purchased music and it should have a download option. i know there is a way to re-download your music cause i do it everytime i format my computer
analog39
10-20-2005, 01:29 AM
itunes is the biggest waste of time ever. Ipods suck!! get a dell or another brand there cheaper and u wont be like everyone else. God forbid u r diff.
Gumby21
10-20-2005, 04:23 AM
the only reason i use iTunes right now is because everyone else in my house also does, so we can share each others libraries. Otherwise I would use Peer Impact.
thedude
10-20-2005, 04:46 AM
it's called "**** macintosh ofr creating user friendly programs that actually fail to make things easier technically." the only mac based program that i have not had trouble wiht at all is Quicktime.
kelly
10-20-2005, 04:49 AM
hey, I run a mac, I'm gonna kick your ass.
thedude
10-20-2005, 04:59 AM
i have a video for you, click here (http://www.jokaroo.com/funnyvideos/machater.html) kelly
kelly
10-20-2005, 05:02 AM
seen it...
thedude
10-20-2005, 05:06 AM
then do we need to say more? lol
you knwo i am jsut bustin' your chops
kelly
10-20-2005, 05:07 AM
Just a sign of jealousy...
thedude
10-20-2005, 05:31 AM
not really, hate usign those computers for anything more than simple text and video editing. plus thye are more xpensive just because they have the "hot" items now, and i want a operating system that does more than make things "user friendly." windows is user firendly, excpet it takes a real dip**** to screw it up.
kelly
10-20-2005, 05:33 AM
Pshah, mac is way better than windows, more stable, faster, and less memory intensive... I didn't know that kind of "user friendliness" was worth complaining about.
thedude
10-20-2005, 06:03 AM
when windows first came out, like the first version, you needed to understand basic search prinicples foryour compuer, thsi ment knowind direct program fiel names, and some people just couldn't do that at all. so machintosh's first system was made to be run that you didn't need to type in a direcory link, but oyu could go in and find it like the way we do it today. well, snce then, windows and mac have been runnign n that system basis, but thsi is where you get the problems. windows, beingf more widely used and a little more technical, confused people as to hwo to use things. with mac, the system was run on the principle that if someoen wanted to do something that could slwo it down or crash the computer, it owuldn't let them. so macs were more constricting whiel windows was jsut confusing (and nto by a lot mind you), but peopel rather prefered having somehting that did waht thye wnated it to do. mac has since fixed the problem, but now because peoel now have that user friendly desktop or laptop, macintosh can suddenly charge lots of money, and the computers runnign windows operating system are sold for less. mac gives the impression that they are doign the supply and demand thing, but it is less supplyign and more demanding on their behalf. liek this Ipod Nano business, usig flash memory (whihc is cheap memory) and charging $255 for a 4gig at Best Buy. this si a shame, because Creative Labs has their Zen line of Mp3 players, and their 20gig can be used on all operatign systems, uses good microprocessing memory, and costs $10 less than the 4gig Nano. not to mention the quality of the machinery on Macs has goen down hill. mac has goen fomr that little rebel in the computer world into being the next conglomorate liek Microsoft.
in case you haven't figured it out, most of my dislikings of mac is linked to how they are changing for the worse. there best products were the ones right before they created the IMacs (the colorful ones that you coudl get in your favorite color). after that is was all about marketing the same lame ass **** with just a new look for the hardware
kelly
10-20-2005, 06:07 AM
Wow, that was long. I'm a designer, so I like good industrial design. I don't see what the big deal is with having a good industrial design team.
WOW that’s all I have to say. I kind of use both I run a Linux box and then just have an emulator that runs windows. But sorry Kelly I don't like Mac's
kelly
10-20-2005, 06:23 AM
pshah, prejudice... you just don't know what you're talking about...
haha that could be it but I live on my pc for work!!!
thedude
10-20-2005, 06:28 AM
it's mroe of a materials thing, and supposidly the design team is in charge of that. so not do they onyl make computer with weak ass plastic, but they charge people big for it too. it all started with the Imac when they inroduced cheap plastic
kelly
10-20-2005, 06:34 AM
Ok, one.. which desktops aren't made out of cheap plastic? I mean, you're gonna tell me dells are made out of extra super plastic?
And two.. I have a powerbook and it's titanium... while most laptops are plastic... hmmmm....
mine is made out of wood!!! I guess I need to catch up!!
kelly
10-20-2005, 06:40 AM
are you sure that's not your kid's toy laptop?
PapaHerb
10-20-2005, 06:40 AM
Beryllium is the way to go... so strong, so light!
Best Apple product ever: Apple IIe
thedude
10-20-2005, 06:44 AM
dell is ****. they are the new gateway, got big, then sucked. i mean, seriously, when was the last tie oyu looked at a "good" gateway?
powerbooks are way mro expensie mainly because that make it out of titanium. ti is expensive ****, no matter what you get in it, computer, bike frame, doesn't matter. now if they made the rest of their **** liek that, then i'de be impressed structurally. then they wold have to get rid of the annoying warning screens that pop up every minute.
i'm wiht levi, Linux is super sweet ****. if i had the time or money to spend, i would go to the local computer store and buy a conversion package to get rid of wiondows and giev me a Linux server. i've used my friends computer, he as linux, and i love it!
dell is ****. they are the new gateway, got big, then sucked. i mean, seriously, when was the last tie oyu looked at a "good" gateway?
powerbooks are way mro expensie mainly because that make it out of titanium. ti is expensive ****, no matter what you get in it, computer, bike frame, doesn't matter. now if they made the rest of their **** liek that, then i'de be impressed structurally. then they wold have to get rid of the annoying warning screens that pop up every minute.
i'm wiht levi, Linux is super sweet ****. if i had the time or money to spend, i would go to the local computer store and buy a conversion package to get rid of wiondows and giev me a Linux server. i've used my friends computer, he as linux, and i love it! yeah what he said!!!!
thedude
10-20-2005, 06:50 AM
your computer is wood? i think less of a virus problem and mroe of a termite problem, lol
live 2 ride
10-20-2005, 12:36 PM
yeah iTunes annoys me to. i had a really hard time installing my iPod. and it wasn't working so i called the tech support. and they told me to wait for it to finish installing. so i waited for 1 hour.. so then i call back later and there like oh you waited to long. it probably froze. and then after a couple times of doing it, it finally worked.
jason
10-20-2005, 12:48 PM
I have a PowerBook at work (for sale) and until just recently a dual G5 and iTunes was awesome. Never had a single problem ever. Used three different iPods and just hooked them up. Now I have built a new dual Opteron 242 with Windows XP 64-bit and iTunes / Nano drivers went to town on my system. Basically it somehow screwed up and corrupted my USB drivers. Finally managed to reload the drivers and I haven’t had any problems since. Even with the problems, I really like iTunes.
kelly
10-20-2005, 03:02 PM
dell is ****. they are the new gateway, got big, then sucked. i mean, seriously, when was the last tie oyu looked at a "good" gateway?
powerbooks are way mro expensie mainly because that make it out of titanium. ti is expensive ****, no matter what you get in it, computer, bike frame, doesn't matter. now if they made the rest of their **** liek that, then i'de be impressed structurally. then they wold have to get rid of the annoying warning screens that pop up every minute.
i'm wiht levi, Linux is super sweet ****. if i had the time or money to spend, i would go to the local computer store and buy a conversion package to get rid of wiondows and giev me a Linux server. i've used my friends computer, he as linux, and i love it!
Annoying warning screens? what the hell are you talking about?
SnoChica
10-20-2005, 04:38 PM
dell is ****. they are the new gateway, got big, then sucked. i mean, seriously, when was the last tie oyu looked at a "good" gateway?
powerbooks are way mro expensie mainly because that make it out of titanium. ti is expensive ****, no matter what you get in it, computer, bike frame, doesn't matter. now if they made the rest of their **** liek that, then i'de be impressed structurally. then they wold have to get rid of the annoying warning screens that pop up every minute.
i'm wiht levi, Linux is super sweet ****. if i had the time or money to spend, i would go to the local computer store and buy a conversion package to get rid of wiondows and giev me a Linux server. i've used my friends computer, he as linux, and i love it!
I have a Gateway laptop, bought it last year. NEVER a problem. PCs are as good as the person using them. If you know how to properly care for and protect a computer. And, if you bought the RIGHT computer for your needs, you'll be fine.
SimonInAustralia
10-20-2005, 08:42 PM
Use what ever works for you, and has the applications you want to use.
They both do the same thing.
There is no winner in a Mac vs PC debate.
Hating Apple is just lame, just like hating Burton, get over it.
thedude
10-20-2005, 08:47 PM
if a computer has to go into the negatives to label the number of problems they have with the opertaing system, then i stay away (late 90's mac programming, blech!)
thedude
10-20-2005, 08:55 PM
Annoying warning screens? what the hell are you talking about?
first experimce with mac 8 years ago:
boot up takign 2 minutes ot start all necessary programs, and the first thing i get is a duck sound that then is followed with a warnign lable saying "warning:(problem -67or some **** liek that) performign this action may disrupt other programs." funny, because i haven't doen anythign yet
last experince with a mac two years ago:
see first experience
SnowGeek
10-20-2005, 10:41 PM
WOW that?s all I have to say. I kind of use both I run a Linux box and then just have an emulator that runs windows. But sorry Kelly I don't like Mac's
I have a Linux box 'cause it's stable and I'm a nerd, a Windows box for running games and other common software. I'd like a Mac, but they always seem overpriced. If only someone would give me one...
Anyway, it seems like:
1. Artistic types like Macs
2. Nerds/geeks like Linux
3. Everyone else uses Windows since it's common and inexpensive.
IRideASnowboard154
10-20-2005, 10:41 PM
the powebooks arent actually made out of titanium.. they are titanium colored.. a computer made out of ti would be alot more expensive that what they are now.
Gumby21
10-20-2005, 10:47 PM
I have a Gateway laptop, bought it last year. NEVER a problem. PCs are as good as the person using them. If you know how to properly care for and protect a computer. And, if you bought the RIGHT computer for your needs, you'll be fine.
Couldn't have said it better myself
kamalei_808
10-28-2005, 07:42 AM
I Dont No If You Guys Talked About This Already, But Is Itunes The Only Way To Transfer Songs To Your Ipod??
analog39
10-28-2005, 12:08 PM
i think it is. There is other software that allows u to download onto ur ipod without itunes but i dont think it works very well
SnowGeek
10-28-2005, 05:13 PM
I've used a free program called gtkpod. It's pretty good, but still a bit buggy. Why not just use Itunes?
kelly
10-28-2005, 05:13 PM
yeah, it's not like you have to pay for itunes or anything
snowboardnguy90
10-28-2005, 09:43 PM
what is that stupid stuff about if you delete a song out of ur library it deletes it from ur ipod also?
SimonInAustralia
10-28-2005, 09:58 PM
If you have itunes set to automatically update your ipod, then it keeps the playlist on your ipod the same as your itunes library. So if you delete a song in itunes, then it deletes it in your ipod when you connect it.
If you set itunes to do the updates manually, then it doesn't do this, you add files to the ipod by dragging them onto the itunes ipod icon, and delete them from the ipod by selecting them in the ipod playlist in itunes and delting them.
snowboardnguy90
10-31-2005, 12:57 AM
ohh... and i have another problem now. My computer with i-tunes crashed and now i hafta completely wipe it, so now i hafta re-insert all of my music onto the computer. Is there a way to bring it from my ipod to the computer??
IRideASnowboard154
10-31-2005, 01:01 AM
yes........
kamalei_808
10-31-2005, 01:53 AM
I Dont No If Its My Driver Or I Tunes Or Maybe My Ipod Thats Giving Me Problems-thats Y I Was Wondering If There Was Another Program. But Its Probably My Driver Thing Anyway-FOR SOME REASON IT WONT OR CANT CONFIGURE THE IPOD-YOU HAVE TO CONFIFURE IT RIGHT?
WEEZER
11-28-2005, 08:28 PM
yeah iTunes annoys me to. i had a really hard time installing my iPod. and it wasn't working so i called the tech support. and they told me to wait for it to finish installing. so i waited for 1 hour.. so then i call back later and there like oh you waited to long. it probably froze. and then after a couple times of doing it, it finally worked.
lol now that's funny... you have to understand these guys too, so many people call them with questions b/c they haven't read their user manual. My sisters call me all the time asking questions like this and it can get annoying.
Laundrew
12-08-2005, 02:33 PM
"WOW that’s all I have to say. I kind of use both I run a Linux box and then just have an emulator that runs windows. But sorry Kelly I don't like Mac's
"
OSX is based off of freebsd. Using Linux and Using OSX is pretty similar except for things like hardware support and things working :D
<---- pours fuel on the fire.
i <3 my powerbook.
yourmom3112
03-22-2006, 12:00 AM
do what i do. download songs with a different program. like Bearshare. and after you download it it's automatically put into itunes so you can put it on your ipod and then you don't have to pay for it.
assuming you'd be willing to illegally download music.
SpottyFish
03-22-2006, 12:02 AM
do what i do. download songs with a different program. like Bearshare. and after you download it it's automatically put into itunes so you can put it on your ipod and then you don't have to pay for it.
assuming you'd be willing to illegally download music.
No, I wouldn't willingly download music illegally.
snowboardnguy90
03-22-2006, 03:43 AM
yea, because musicians actually need money, they're not all rich (at least the music i listen to) and it would be good to show support for the bands that you like.
SimonInAustralia
03-22-2006, 03:50 AM
It funny how people don't mind downloading and using someone's song or video illegally, without paying for it, in other words stealing it.
How would they feel if people came round to their house and stole from them, would they care?
Laundrew
03-22-2006, 05:51 PM
i download music but i usually buy the cd within a week.
yourmom3112
04-01-2006, 07:59 PM
it's not like i don't buy cd's, i do, if i really like a band i'll go out and buy the cd
SimonInAustralia
04-01-2006, 09:21 PM
it's not like i don't buy cd's, i do, if i really like a band i'll go out and buy the cdSo, would you go into a snowboard store, take a whole snowboarding set of gear without paying for it, and tell the store owner that you will pay for it, but only if you really like it?
snowboardnguy90
04-02-2006, 08:35 AM
main reason people don't feel too guilty about it is the fact that cd's themselves aren't too expensive. Also, most bands make their money off of shows, a lot of the album sales go to the record company.
however, it's good to buy the album so that the record company can recognise that your favorite bands are selling, and therefore making them a more valuable asset to the label.
Laundrew
04-03-2006, 02:36 PM
however, it's good to buy the album so that the record company can recognise that your favorite bands are selling, and therefore making them a more valuable asset to the label.
You are joking right? Bands don't make much money off or shows, they make money off of CD Sales it literally costs 50 cents to distribute a CD in mass production. The whole reason why people play shows is so they are out there plugging their CD.
I usually download a CD if i can't get a sufficent sample on amazon or the bands website and if i don't like it you will see it in the trash, if i do like it i purchase it right away.
kelly
04-03-2006, 04:03 PM
It costs 50 cents to produce the CD, but not much of the profit goes to the band, there are other people taking that money too....
More obscure bands tend to make more money off of shows because they're not really selling that many CD's to make a good profit, while cash from shows and merchandise sold at shows goes directly to them... releasing a CD and getting it distributed is pretty expensive for a band on an indie label.
Popular bands still make tons of money off of CD's because they're sold in such quantity that even if they're only getting a bit of profit off each CD sale, it adds up.
Laundrew
04-03-2006, 04:48 PM
kelly you are correct i was thinking mainstream Its economies of scale. But i am going to wager that people on labels like subpop, toothandnail, and vagrant are still making bank.
snowboardnguy90
04-03-2006, 10:26 PM
It costs 50 cents to produce the CD, but not much of the profit goes to the band, there are other people taking that money too....
More obscure bands tend to make more money off of shows because they're not really selling that many CD's to make a good profit, while cash from shows and merchandise sold at shows goes directly to them... releasing a CD and getting it distributed is pretty expensive for a band on an indie label.
Popular bands still make tons of money off of CD's because they're sold in such quantity that even if they're only getting a bit of profit off each CD sale, it adds up.
yea thats what i was talking about.
Lots of money from cd sales goes to the record company, because they do a ****load of work per cd, and a lot of people work on it (usually), whereas concert money is basically split between the tech team and the band.
i was also including profits from merch sales and stuff at the shows.
SimonInAustralia
04-04-2006, 03:35 AM
The artist/band is usually in debt to the record company for the costs invloved in recording, manufacturing, advertising, and distributing the CD.
Every sale of the CD helps to reduce this debt.
If you are not paying for the CD, you are stealing the music, and depriving the artist of the profit they should receive, which should be going towards reducing their debt to the record company.
There is no justification for pirating music, no matter how you try to word it, you are stealing it, you are simply a thief.
kelly
04-04-2006, 04:14 AM
I buy music... I was just explaining that argument ;)
snowboardnguy90
04-04-2006, 04:16 AM
however, the thing is, i think cd's are kind of unfairly priced. You see some for like 20$ a cd, that's a lot for something that is so cheap to make. i know you have to pay for costs of making the actual music and stuff, but i think record companies could lower their prices a bit, maybe use some cheaper material for the cd case/booklet, or just be a bit less greedy. Then, more people would buy the cd's, increasing sales, then everybody wins.
Laundrew
04-04-2006, 04:32 PM
however, the thing is, i think cd's are kind of unfairly priced. You see some for like 20$ a cd, that's a lot for something that is so cheap to make. i know you have to pay for costs of making the actual music and stuff, but i think record companies could lower their prices a bit, maybe use some cheaper material for the cd case/booklet, or just be a bit less greedy. Then, more people would buy the cd's, increasing sales, then everybody wins.
if people didn't steal music, CD's would have never left that $11-$13 cost point.
kelly
04-04-2006, 04:34 PM
I buy music on itunes.. cuz it's like $10...
snowboardnguy90
04-04-2006, 07:41 PM
if people didn't steal music, CD's would have never left that $11-$13 cost point.
good point.
username? tim?
08-22-2006, 07:20 AM
actually... alot of them dont. They have to pay for stuff too, many people you would think had a ****load of money really dont.
they have enough i don't pay for songs i listen to them online and there are lots of ways to record those for free
username? tim?
08-22-2006, 07:32 AM
I Dont No If You Guys Talked About This Already, But Is Itunes The Only Way To Transfer Songs To Your Ipod??
not ne more i can do it through the new wmp (which also sux) but i like itunes cause it's the best music player library there is and i've had a lot
Harrrrshhhh.
I have a Sony Bean, and I can download from whatever site and import it into my library.
And it's not an IPod, so there's always that. It holds about 500 songs, I don't see myself listening to 10,000 anyway.
username? tim?
08-23-2006, 12:44 AM
a sony bean??? lol what's that? memorex has these new ones that look like flaying sausers.
but yeah i know a lot of people with 40-60 gig ipods but they only have like 10 gigs of music at most which is just a huge waste of space
Burton Doom
09-11-2006, 01:56 AM
actually... alot of them dont. They have to pay for stuff too, many people you would think had a ****load of money really dont.
Most of them are million airs though. gotta love the illigal downloading south park episode. Now little p-diddy will have to wait a week for his private island!
DC-RiDa-4-LiFe77
09-11-2006, 02:36 AM
most of the bands i lsiten to say to download their music. but if you really support a band you should buy their cd. as for your i-tunes problem, just call apple. plus if ur nice you could be like hey give me 10 free songs. my friend had a problem and thats what they gave him. but you are better off using limewire sometimes if the song doesnt work out. just download limewire and download the song again for free instead of dealing with the hasal.
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