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gerard
04-17-2005, 05:40 PM
This seems silly to me but what do u guys think?

Koran scholar: US will cease to exist in 2007
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

A thorough analysis of the Koran reveals that the US will cease to exist in the year 2007, according to research published by Palestinian scholar Ziad Silwadi.

The study, which has caught the attention of millions of Muslims worldwide, is based on in-depth interpretations of various verses in the Koran. It predicts that the US will be hit by a tsunami larger than that which recently struck southeast Asia.

"The tsunami waves are a minor rehearsal in comparison with what awaits the US in 2007," the researcher concluded in his study. "The Holy Koran warns against the Omnipotent Allah's force. A great sin will cause a huge flood in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans."

Silwadi, who is from the village of Silwad near Ramallah – the home of Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal – is not a world-renowned scholar. He said he decided to publish the findings of his research "out of a sense of responsibility because what is about to happen is extremely shocking and frightening."

His fear, he said, is that the world economy, which relies heavily on the US dollar, would be deeply affected by the collapse of the US.

"It would be fair to say that the world would be better off with a US that is not a superpower and that does not take advantage of weak nations than a world where this country does not exist at all," he added."The world will certainly lose a lot if and when this disaster occurs because of the great services that American society has rendered to the economy, industry and science."

Silwadi said his study of the Koran showed that the US would perish mainly because of its great sins against mankind, including the Native Americans and blacks.

"As soon as the Europeans started arriving in the new world discovered by Christopher Columbus in 1492, they declared a war on the so-called Red Indians, the legitimate owners of the land," he wrote. "Then they began enslaving and humiliating Africans after kidnapping them from their countries and bringing them to America. Millions of blacks were brought to the US and treated with unprecedented harshness. Those who became ill during the journey were thrown overboard to feed the fish."

Silwadi pointed out that the US continued to commit war crimes and "ethnic cleansing" against humanity by becoming the first country to use nuclear weapons during World War II.

"International law penalizes such crimes," he said. "If these laws were not applied then, they are certainly implemented in heaven. If no one on earth is capable of punishing [the US], Allah was and remains able to do so. All these actions have been documented by Allah in a big archive called the Koran."

Silwadi said he reached the conclusion that several suras (chapters) in the Koran that talk about punishment for those who perpetrate heinous sins actually refer to the US.

As an example, he quotes in his study verse 40 of the Spider Sura, which states: "So each We [God] punished for his sin; of them was he on whom We sent down a violent storm, and of them was he whom the rumbling overtook, and of them was he whom We made to be swallowed up by the earth, and of them he whom We drowned; and it did not beseem Allah that He should be unjust to them, but they were unjust to their own souls."

Drawing parallels between Pharaoh and the US, who share the same "sin" of arrogance and excessive pride, Silwadi noted that the Koran mentions at least 12 times the fact that Pharaoh was punished by drowning for his evil deeds.

The Narrative Sura, he noted, clearly suggests that the US will drown in the sea: "And Firon [Pharaoh] said: O chiefs! I do not know of any god for you besides myself; therefore kindle a fire for me And he was unjustly proud in the land, he and his hosts, and they deemed that they would not be brought back to Us. So We caught hold of him and his hosts, then We cast them into the sea, and see how was the end of the unjust [verses 38-40]."

This is the full article. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1111980180248

Sno_Tactix
04-17-2005, 08:05 PM
there iz no tsunami that could possibly destroy all of america.. and plus.. the euro iz soon going to pass up the us dollar and europe iz our biggest import and we are europes.. if we collapse then europe collapse then -what holy **** the chinease and japanese take over? what the **** iz allah gunna do to them? no.. see.. if allah would punish all for destroying man kind then why the hell would all theze ppl blow themselves up just to kill others.. why duznt he kill them?

board_chicky
04-20-2005, 09:14 PM
well i guess that is good i am in canada eh lol.
I don't think this is gonna happen come on think now lol... that has to be one hell of a wave dosen't it.

gerard
04-20-2005, 09:24 PM
I think it's all just crazy talk

Tizzer
04-20-2005, 09:52 PM
the possiblility of a tsunami hitting america is as great as it hitting any other body of land in the world. some of that stuff in the article is ridiculous though, to say america was having a hand in ethnic "cleansing" by using atomic weapons in ww2 is absolutely absurd. If we hadn't the people of the earth, including the middle east would either be speaking german or japanese. A lot of the stuff that comes from the mid east is mainly anti-american propaganda anyway. Especially from the radical muslims. They would love to see america fall. Only problem with that is then they would have to face fact that few people over there have any tolerance for anyone else's beliefs. They feel america is targeting islam when in fact, the people of this country coudn't care less what religion you are. I mean we have everything from christians, catholics, jews, muslims, agnostics and satanists in this country and every one is free to explore whatever religion appeals to them. I Think its sad really to have our entire country be viewed by the actions of one man (g w bush) because I think there are few people in this country that really agree with him. Especially when you lose mot of your supportive cabinet members during the administration.

Ah what a topic...

Proximate Platypus
04-22-2005, 07:22 AM
That's ridiculous. No tsunami could possibly wash over ALL of America...
Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken, the Qu'aran was written before 1776, or even before the first colonies started to form (so how could the writer(s) make a prediction about America if it didn't exist back then).

Hmmm... speaking Japanese and German eh...? Now that I would like quite a bit ^_^
although I would mind growing up in a Nazi and jingoist Japanese society. That would be very disturbing.

skate323k137
04-22-2005, 01:31 PM
It's probably a bunch of BS, but, there is a good chance that the world could end up having a pole shift. This would wipe out about 80% of life on the planet, and all it takes to happen is a dead star passing somewhere between earth and the sun. (think of a HUGE magnet flying by the earths magnetic poles...) There is one heading this way, which would explain all the extra solar flares, earthquakes, tornadoes, etc. that the world has seen recently. Hopefully that rock doesn't make it here by the time we die....

bcboarder
06-29-2005, 09:18 PM
If anything is gonna kill entire nations its gonna be bush, or fast food

gerard
06-30-2005, 02:55 PM
If anything is gonna kill entire nations its gonna be bush, or fast food


yeah I agree with that, not sure which one will kill us first though.

itzalex
07-17-2005, 04:17 AM
tell you the truth, a natural disaster isnt what people should be worrying about, if you have heard from greenspan lately, the backbone of the United States' slush fund is Social Security, and he is estimating that it will be bankrupt by 2008, that will cause something worse than all of us can expect, an 80% income tax, and i for one do not want to be dumping in money for the lazy people out there. the productive should be rewarded and not punished.

BoardCoreLo13
07-19-2005, 06:27 AM
the possiblility of a tsunami hitting america is as great as it hitting any other body of land in the world. some of that stuff in the article is ridiculous though, to say america was having a hand in ethnic "cleansing" by using atomic weapons in ww2 is absolutely absurd. If we hadn't the people of the earth, including the middle east would either be speaking german or japanese. A lot of the stuff that comes from the mid east is mainly anti-american propaganda anyway. Especially from the radical muslims. They would love to see america fall. Only problem with that is then they would have to face fact that few people over there have any tolerance for anyone else's beliefs. They feel america is targeting islam when in fact, the people of this country coudn't care less what religion you are. I mean we have everything from christians, catholics, jews, muslims, agnostics and satanists in this country and every one is free to explore whatever religion appeals to them. I Think its sad really to have our entire country be viewed by the actions of one man (g w bush) because I think there are few people in this country that really agree with him. Especially when you lose mot of your supportive cabinet members during the administration.

Ah what a topic...

I'm really going to piss people off on this one... especially my fellow Seattlite -

So if everything coming from the middle east is anti-American propaghanda, what is all the crap coming from America about the middle-east? Fact backed truth? I think not... it's anti-Middle East propaghanda. Everything we hear on the news, read in the papers, its all falsified in some way. I mean ****, even if reporters aren't fabricating stories, everything is owned by Clear Channel, which indirectly edits and censors anything and everything that goes out to the public through the reallocating of funds. To Americans, other countries commit acts of terrorism. In every other country of the world, America is viewed as a country whose government commits innumerable acts of terrorism. (except maybe the U.K since Tony Blair seems to be becoming the European equivalent of Bush in this whole War on Terror bit). Go look up the Dresden bombings, or Operation Mongoose, or consider why Columbia has the worst human rights in the world, but also gets the most US military aid out of anyone else. One large scale attack on American soil in years. Our last major continental disaster involved us fighting ourselves (Civil War). What if we took all our troops wives and children and sent them to another country with no guns, no war... a safe zone, and someone from the middle east blew up that entire area, killing hundreds to break the spirits of our troops?? How would the nation react. That's exactly what we did during WWII. If that's not an act of terrorism, I don't know what is.

You have subscribed to exactly what our government and media want you to believe in - that we are the Truth and our enemies are simply what you said "Anti-American propaganda".


oh.... and in a way I really do hope the US will cease to exsist by 2007... by then I'll be out of here.. besides..the pacific northwest is due for a gigantic natural disaster, about 100 years over due for a volcano erruption, which would cause an earthquake in puget sound, thus proudcing a tidal wave that could take out most of washington state and part of oregon and idaho.. amazing what geologists can tell you about.

SnoChica
07-20-2005, 03:58 AM
You are completely correct. Read a book called The Culture of Fear... it's all about how the media influences and feeds us our information which is edited and censored by the powers that be. Hell, we're borderline Communist in that respect. Because if you don't think the government has a hand in the companies that liek Clear Channel that own our airwaves, you're mistaken.

Proximate Platypus
07-20-2005, 05:06 AM
I'm not anti-american or anti-muslim (I have had many very nice muslim friends over the years), but it is a fact that the extreme, right-wing sects of islam are prejudiced against people who are different from them... They blew up the two giant sacred statues of Buddha in China in 2001 because they don't approve of other religions; and don't let's forget 9/11, the london bombings, and the LA bombing (on a side note, the bombs for the latter were assembled in a motel about 20 minutes from my house O_o ).
I don't know what to think about war anymore. I mean it's necessary to stop a dictator, but do we have to kill all those civilians??
:(

BoardCoreLo13
07-21-2005, 05:32 AM
Doesn't deciding that taking down a "dictator" in the eyes of America without asking for the people of America's opinion on the matter make our own president a dictator by the definition of it?

SnoChica
07-22-2005, 02:13 AM
You'll love this article.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20020607.html
Doesn't deciding that taking down a "dictator" in the eyes of America without asking for the people of America's opinion on the matter make our own president a dictator by the definition of it?

Cheung
07-26-2005, 03:29 AM
Meh... I'm in Canada so I'm safe....

What I don't get is that the person who posted second has my name is their sig :shock:

SnoChica
07-26-2005, 03:32 AM
What I don't get is that the person who posted second has my name is their sig :shock:
That's a little trick a few people around here know. It's hidden in the signature section, a button called name or something like that. Whoever reads the post is who's name shows. Kinda fun.

Gumby21
07-26-2005, 04:49 PM
heh heh...any tsunami/tsunamies big enough to take out the ENTIRE United States would also devastate Europe, Canada, Mexico, Central and South America, the West Coast of Africa, Greenland, Japan, China, the Philippines, Australia, New Zealand, and probably many others I can't think of off the top of my head.