Cannot get up

[puffnstuff]

I started riding about a year ago. Every time I fall the only way I can get up is rolling over and pushing up. I cannot for the life of me get up any other way. Any tips on how to get up the normal way?

[DragonUSMC]

the normal way? to me that is the normal way, get up from your knees... But then again i've taken a beating over the years and getting up from my butt on a flat surface isnt exactly easy anymore.

Tuck your board closer to you and rock your body weight forward and roll your way up... thats what i have been left to do... my back just cant take getting up that way on the flats anymore. God i'm getting old...

But anyway getting up from your knees is better for a few reasons… 1. you can follow the skier responsibility code and then watch for up hill traffic as you begin your decent again. 2. uses less energy 3. easier on your body and joints 4. your board wont start slipping down the hill cause you can dig your toes in hard.

Then again i had a few REALLY fat kids in some lessons and they cant get up from their butts either. But that is for obvious reasons.

[djstealth]

yeah, getting up from your knees is better, at some degree, I like to get up from my ass, I would say, but that's because if I get up from my knees I start feeling sluggish but when I have to push harder my body keeps moving, kinda like taking a break when you are working out.

now I push with my hand closed to a fist as if I would be punching the ground, I found that easier for me because I can use the extra distance that I won't get from the palm of my hand, now this of course will never be easy on your wrists so start packing wrist supports or just get into some wrist strengthening regime

[puffnstuff]

I call it the "normal" way because I see everyone who falls on their butt just push themselves up so I thought that is how every one does it. So far I have never seen anyone get up the way I do.

[DragonUSMC]

depends on where they are falling... if you're on a steep incline then yeah its fairly easy to get up from your butt... but if not then its a bit harder.

are you not very flexable? if not start doing streaching exercises over the summer and build your flexability... this will make it much easier.

[gerard]

I also get up from my knees and push up. I used to be able to get up from a sitting position but then I got fat :)

[DragonUSMC]

^yeah thats kinda my boat too =(

[FearMe]

If you can't get up you might want to try Viagara.

[Grill]

Wow, I'm surprised so many good snowboarders on here have trouble getting up off their asses. I've never really put any thought into how I do, I just do it.

[DragonUSMC]

I dont have trouble.. it just takes more effort then it did when i was 15

[FearMe]

^ Viagara man Viagara.

[gerard]

^ Viagara man Viagara.
I just got about 5 emails to get them cheap too! :evil:

[FearMe]

Its a sign.

[SnoChica]

Apparantly, like "getting IT up" this is only a male issue! :)

[punkrock89]

How to get off your ass:
1). Make sure you are on a steep enough incline. You dont want to do this on a flat surfice. The steeper the easier.
2). Dig your heal edge into the snow.
3). Sit up (like you're doing a sit-up)
4). Place your leading hand on the ground slightly behind your ass.
5). Have your trailing hand out towards the front of you.
6). "Roll" over onto the base of your board, using your leading had to help push your ass up, and using your trailing hand to help give you leverage.
7). Stand up and ride away.

I used to have troubles getting off my ass too cuz I'm so big and tall. I just forced myself to learn, and found that this works for me. So enjoy my 7-step program. :grin:

[Grill]

I still don't understand the difficulty with getting up on a flat surface. There's no way my triceps are 10x bigger than everyone else's.

[punkrock89]

I just need a slight slope now. Wait, nevermind. I'm pretty sure I can get up on flat ground. Most places I ride usually have atleast a small slope. The main problem I had was my really long legs, and just plain being a big ass mofo. It isn't that hard though once you learn the right way you gotta push and stuff.

[FearMe]

Apparantly, like "getting IT up" this is only a male issue! :)

Only certain males, I'm content that I don't fear this problem.

[Baz3001]

I can get up off my ass without any trouble, but there's no denying its easier from the knees...

[DragonUSMC]

I still don't understand the difficulty with getting up on a flat surface. There's no way my triceps are 10x bigger than everyone else's.

They could be! do you jerk off alot?

[Fae]

Apparantly, like "getting IT up" this is only a male issue! :)

Not true, remember trying to teach Nadia how to get up?

[SnoChica]

:) She was such a TROOPER!

I guess I don't even really think about it. If I'm down I get up. (That was a profound statement)

[gavn]

You might want to look at how wide your bindings are set apart. It might be too far apart making it harder to get up.

[gerard]

off topic I know, but do you guys still ride with her?

[SnoChica]

off topic I know, but do you guys still ride with her?
Nope... one time only

[Grill]

They could be! do you jerk off alot?

What's a lot? :D

Loaded questions... :lol:

[DragonUSMC]

What's a lot? :D

Loaded questions... :lol:

More then me... =P

[punkrock89]

Some how, everything always reverts back to masturbation.

[Spin240]

lol, this thread is going down the drain...

If you cant get up then you need to go work your core out... If you have trouble getting up it means mainly your top 2 abs are completely jelly and your fat... Go get to the gym..

I am by no means great shape but my top 2 abs are crazy defined compared to the keg below them because of getting up on a snowboard.

I love when I get people in a lesson and they cant get up themselves... I want to refund their money and tell them to come back when they have gotten out of the cubicle for the last 10 yeras.

[snowboarding_bear]

lol ive never had any trouble really getting up, and im not in good shape...i needa lose 9 more pounds to b considered in shape for my hieght...i was 210, now im 190, i lost 20 lbs in 2 months!!...damn right?

[DragonUSMC]

but yeah you gain weight for hibernation though... so its normal.

[Spin240]

whats your excuse dragon? LOL, jk

I just turned 24 recently and my body is starting to act like im 42..

[snowboarding_bear]

lol true, god i hate hibernation, cuz im sleeping during the season...WTF??!? haha

[DragonUSMC]

whats your excuse dragon? LOL, jk

I just turned 24 recently and my body is starting to act like im 42..

I was in great shape till i got home from the war... getting 2-3 hours of sleep a day for 9 months took its toll... That and my GF is an AWESOME cook.

=D Hey i'm back in the gym now... so i'll be back in shape for the next season.

[snowboarding_bear]

well hell i think anyone would gain weight after getting back from war, those energy ready meals or w/e theyr called...lol, makes dennys seem 5 star

[Spin240]

My girlfriend cooks pretty much every meal for me... I know what you mean on that... Its a blessing and a curse lol...

[puffnstuff]

Thanks for all the tips and advice guys. I am not fat I was told its because I have no upper body strength and that was the reason I cannot do it.

[gavn]

I might be wrong, but I don't think it has very much to do with upper body strength at all.

[NCC-1701]

Yeah, work those abs...that is what will make the biggest difference. Your core muscle group is so key to everything in snowboarding.

[punkrock89]

Your core muscles are extremely important in every sport and activity. Those muscles are what really gives you your overal strength.

[DragonUSMC]

^and bones keep you ridged so you arent a pile of musclely goo... science is COOL!!!

[punkrock89]

Yay science!!! :D Especially physics, because physics is the coolest and most important of all the sciences. I mean, who needs to know the mating schedual of hump back whales?

[WinterFreshMandy]

I think this is the hardest part of teaching...people get frustrated with this part...

one method that works for some people is the push pull method...put one hand behind you and push down on the toe edge of your board with your other hand...push the edge firmly into the ground and then pull on the board upwards while pushing off the ground with your other hand....thus balancing you out and pulling you up...eventually it gets easier and you won't even think about it when you're getting up..it just takes a little while

[DragonUSMC]

What frusterates me is when my students think I have to pick their fat butts up all day...

"what are you gonna do when the lesson is over kid!? Lay there and die?"

one of my last lessons of the season was just like that. but he was like 17 and hated life because he couldnt get up and was wearing jeans...

[punkrock89]

Hahaha what a dumbasss. You're an idiot if you wear jeans while riding.

[DragonUSMC]

I see it ALL the time... I mean i know we are in the midwest, and we are not talking waist deep powder here... but even when i was a little kid and sledding... i wore snowpants. I dont know WHAT these rejects are thinking... heh probably the same people that let Paris out of jail.

[Spin240]

What frusterates me is when my students think I have to pick their fat butts up all day...

"what are you gonna do when the lesson is over kid!? Lay there and die?"

one of my last lessons of the season was just like that. but he was like 17 and hated life because he couldnt get up and was wearing jeans...


WOOOORRDDDD UP... I always ask people that... WHAT are you gonna do when Im not around

After enough people like that I made it a point that I will only help them up for the first 3-5 times during a newbie lesson and then they are on their own. I could care less if they sit on the snow all day. Im not pulling a muscle in my back or breaking a finger because some fat jackass cant get up toeside OR heelside.

Its a sign of not enough effort I feel.. so if they arent going to try, why should I?

[puffnstuff]

haha my instructor got so damn frustrated at me because I was unable to get up from my ass. I kept telling him I couldn't do it. So he would always have to come and lift me up. So I asked if there was another way. He said turn over. I did it and got up so I was like geez why didn't you tell me that in first place!:lol:

[DragonUSMC]

yeah i tried that with that last kid... infact i usually only show people how to get up form their knees. (its easier and safer for the newbies) But he couldnt roll over either...

yeah i think i ended up pawning off my lesson to a new snowboard candidate actually.

[Cr0_Reps_Smit]

Yea i had this one kid how was pretty big, couldnt get up if his life depend on it. It sucked to cause it was a school program so everytime he fell i had to stop, hop half way up the hill and help him up. it go to the point where i sat him down forced him to learn how to roll over and get up on his knees. He was a good rider too, just couldnt get back up after he fell.

[punkrock89]

When I first began riding, I couldnt get up off my ass, but I forced myself to learn, and pretty soon, I had no problem. In snowboarding, whenever I cannot do something, or do it well, I'll keep working on it untill I get it down.

You'd think that people would be atleast smart enough to wear track pants or something that doesn't completely soak up water.

[dara]

I first learned to get up from my butt by putting one hand on the front edge of my board between my feet and the other on the snow behind me. pull on your board and push off the snow at the same time...

[snowboarding_bear]

i kinda pop up, like, idk how to actually explain it...or i throw my upper body forward and stand,

[DragonUSMC]

^doenst your fur stick to the snow?

[gavn]

In my level one lessons, I usually tell them I will show them two ways of getting up. Since they're already sitting, I show them how to get up from their heel first. Whoever is still on the ground from that, I show them how to roll over and get up from their knees. This normally takes about 5-10 minutes and after that I don't have to spend anymore time on it.

[DragonUSMC]

I usually wait for my first student to fall before i teach getting up. =) just to keep the lesson flowing and to make the "fall" fun / learn from it.

[Spin240]

god I hate teaching level 1s though... boo to that... If I cant be on my snowboard I hate teaching

I loved teaching only high levels this year everyday.. I almost dont want to leave my mountain but out west is calling my name.

[DragonUSMC]

yeah i dred having to put myself in a level 1. But i have a ton of canidate instructors at the start of the season and then most of them quit or just stop showing up after a month. =/

Hell i even let them make their own sch. seriously... i dont see why i have such a retainment problem.

[Spin240]

Its not just your mountain, its all of them. No one can keep staff around, close to impossible.

If the job actually payed what it SHOULD be paying for our skills then people would stay more. But that will never happen.

[DragonUSMC]

ture... but i mean they get to ski / board at 2 differnent hills for free when ever they want, get discounts on gear, discounts on lift tickets, only have to work 1 day a week or as much as they want... etc etc.

I mean yeah we all know we dont get paid jacksheeat. Hell i'm a manager and i think i actually lose $$ having to pay for gas to get there every day. But I mean, not everyone can answer the question "so what do you do?"

me? I'm a professional snowboard instructor... here's my card. =D

[Vidal_Hansoon]

i remember starting off i would fall every 5 seconds the way i would do it, dig my heelside of the board in the snow push up with my hands bend a little to kep balance or like im in a breaking action until i get my bearings straight.

[gavn]

Yeah last season was my first season instructing so all I got was level 1's. They would throw me a higher level every once in a while which was cool.

[snowboarding_bear]

^doenst your fur stick to the snow?

yes, i have snow dingleberries on me all the time!! haha, in order for me not to get them, i strap in while standing

[punkrock89]

hahaha snow dingleberries. :pound:

[snwbrder3384]

yeah i dred having to put myself in a level 1. But i have a ton of canidate instructors at the start of the season and then most of them quit or just stop showing up after a month. =/

Hell i even let them make their own sch. seriously... i dont see why i have such a retainment problem.

ditto dude ditto

[advres]

Maybe you need one of these! (showing my age now)

http://www.acleanhouse.ca/pendant.jpg

[punkrock89]

Is that one of those Life Alert things? ...I only know because I have many late nights being bored and watching TV.

[DragonUSMC]

sweet! so does like someone come and help you up every time you press the button... cause they would have to staff like 20 people on my lesson hill every Sat. if thats the case.

[punkrock89]

Yeah, that's basically what they do. You fall, then they come and pick your ass up.

[snowboarding_bear]

Help Ive Fallen And I Cant Get Up!!

[punkrock89]

No Bear, they'd have to call animal controll for you. You cannot have a Life Alert thing.

[snowboarding_bear]

thats depressing, wait...wont animal alert use like tranquilizers? hahahaha, thatll solve my insomnia

[punkrock89]

Hahaha yeah. You better hope taht Animal Controll finds you before hunters though.

[snowboarding_bear]

yes cuz i can they can make a crap load of jackets and BEANIES from my fur hahaha

[Moocher_88]

get skinnier and do some friggen exercise

[snowboarding_bear]

ok that was completely random, and also completely pointless

[punkrock89]

Yeah, it was. There's a lot of people on this site (look at the previous pages) who are in good shape and are good snowboarders, and cannot get up off their asses.

[boardordi3]

....i skipped from 1st page to the last... and you went from getting back up after falling, to bears.. and animal control... and other random ****.. hahaha

[X5150foreverX]

well if im on my ass i just push up with my arms if im no my knees well i get up off my knees lol rolling hurts my legs cause your nose or tail digs in the snow

[punkrock89]

The key is to have a good amount of slope. There's a lot of people, including me, who can get up off their asses with very little or no slope, but to start out with, get up at a place that is fairly steep. Then work your way up to flat ground.

[Matt Carl]

i can only get up the "normal" way when i still have that momentum from before the fall so i dont have to kill myself trying to put my hand behind me and then push so i can get up. then usually i just fall back down again =)

[Snowolf]

I have no problem getting up either way, but sometimes when it`s icy and i can`t really dig my edge in all that well, the board wants to slide away as I am getting up. A little trick I sometime use in this situation is to place my glove under the board`s edge. This acts like a "parking brake" Once I am standing, I can yank the glove out and go.

Other than that, my advice is to dig in the heel edge as good as possible, scoot your ass up as close to the board as possible, walk yourself up on your hands and if at all possible, grab the edge of your board and push/pull yourself up to a squatting position on your board then stand up.

[Requill]

I never really land on my ass if I fall.
When I buckle in, i'm standing no matter what. My tip would be that you should get your board closer to your knees, have your hands slightly behind you and much up shifting your weight, now you should be in the snowplow position and bingo.

[dirtyjerz]

put the back hand in between your bindings, pull as hard as you can then inch the other hand closer and closer to your butt and you should pop right up. most kids i tell to do this, can do it. some are too weak to move their own bodywieight, i just let them get up from their stomachs, or i help them up.

[snowboarding_bear]

i think if i was to ever be an instructor i wouldnt ever help someone up because if you cant get up you shouldnt even be on a board

[dirtyjerz]

i think if i was to ever be an instructor i wouldnt ever help someone up because if you cant get up you shouldnt even be on a board

well you would think that, but if the kid/adult is becoming very frustrated with the whole concept of getting up, they wont have any interest in the actual riding aspect. id say abotu 30% of the kids i teach need help getting up.

i thought the same for awhile, i think im gonna start instituting standing up into my standard "B" lesson.

[snowboarding_bear]

well heck i never got any lessons i always taught myself thru pain lol...if i didnt know how to stand up i would stay at home for a long time practicing the whole standing part and getting up

[djstealth]

you gotta get with style son, extend your right left hand towards you, plant your heels make a fist with your right hand and push yourself up then use your left hand to aide your body weight forward, nobody can figure out you fell they always see you are pulling a high G down to the floo' manuever

[Chello0o]

I find it way less harsh my shoulders if I roll over and get up. If I push myself up, then my arms and shoulders kill for the next couple days.

Anyways, I don't really sit much, unless I fall or something. Strap in standing up :]

[X5150foreverX]

dont fall that always helps lol

[Matt Carl]

try my method, it always works for me. so sit in the position that your strapping in. lean forward and catch your toe edge in the snow. then you will be on your hands. just push up from there! viola! haha

[Corkscrewed]

Viagra!!!!

[BigC]

im so glad i never had this problem,
i can usualy just flick my massive body up with my wrists and rock fowards, only problem is me knee hurst like sh*t after a day of doing this every since i got knee surgery in october...
my gf always laughs when i get up becuase my knees pop and you can hear it liek 10 feet away.. it cant be good but i cant roll over easy at all, my baords too dam big.